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    I signed the petition, with kudos to the European public, though I haven't seen the substance of European public polls to compare relative logical consistency or whether or not they actually know what they're talking about when giving their opinions. Americans, at least, have attained a level of irrationality that is only exceeded by how uninformed we are (it doesn't help that the government is repeatedly lying to us).

    So check the polls again. In the most recent CNN poll 56% believe Bush has made a "convincing case" while 63% support the war (so some 10% are simply warmongering apes - not surprising), and 36% of us believe Iraq poses an immediate threat (which is an astronomical number considering how little a threat Iraq actually poses, and calls into question the need for war for the other 30%). In the ABC poll previous to Powell's UN fiasco 49% believed the US had "provided strong evidence" that Iraq provided direct support to Al Qaeda - this was before they'd offered any evidence at all, and what was offered was spurious and barely qualifies as circumstancial, even assuming anything said was true - yet in a FOX poll from late January 81% believe Saddam has ties to Al Qaeda, and an ABC poll from 1/28/03 gives 68% that think he's provided direct support. 42% wierdly believe that if the US takes military action against Iraq it will lead to the reinstatement of the draft, and then there's the 89% that think the 9/11 hijackers were Iraqis.

    The hook, line and sinker for me a few months ago was demonstrated well enough by RetroPoll, which actually asks people questions based on something more than blind faith or spurious opinion, and if we knew squat we probably wouldn't be in favor of war. I find it bizarre that polls never ask people simple current events trivia before asking them for their opinions - I suppose giving evidence that we're really just a bunch of ignorant hicks wouldn't make a friendly environment for advertisers.

    And in defense of France (not that I've ever been a Francophile, hence this list's brevity, nor do I understand what is so dubious about peace for oil - that's the way market advocates argue markets are supposed to work, I thought), which has taken numerous attacks in the US media, nevermind government, they a) supported our revolution against the tyrannical stamp taxing British, b) heavily influenced early 20th century American art - and it should be added, much for the better, and c) fought valiantly in World War I, the loss of life (1/10th of the French population) during which explains in part their "rolling over" (albiet I wouldn't call the deaths of hundreds of thousands of French soldiers during the German invasion exactly "accomadating", but whatever) during World War II. Indeed, buy the cheese, you need to stock up for when we're inevitably attacked by terrorists again after a unilateral invasion by the "willing".

:: posted by buermann @ 2003-02-14 00:00:00 CST | link

    go ahead, express that vague notion

    your turing test:

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